education meeting May, 27 2010

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Avigail, Cathie, Kathleen, Cherry, Randy, Rita

We started talking about Squeakfest preparations, where we have work to do: go for funding, spread the word about the call for presentations, invite people, prepare flyers, think about give-aways etc. Since this is more business-related we will schedule another meeting for that topic. Everyone who wants to help with the preparations is invited to join us!

Next we talked about the idea of "artefacts" in Etoys, where we have slightly different feelings about. We agree that it is part of the job of the education team to look closely on new ideas to give advice and discuss it. With new Etoys versions, we can do "house cleaning", remove unused objects etc. There are things we discovered while writing the Etoys reference manual, we will make our notes there and before a new release look at them and react. To communicate this to the developers, we will use jira, and on next meeting spend some time figuring out how.

Randy gave us more feedback on Rico's work and more improtant, asked for feedback for his next milestone. We will invite him for our next meeting and talk especially about Input/Output of Data From/To Files.

[27.05.10 18:33:58] Rita Freudenberg: hi there
[27.05.10 18:34:14] Randall Caton: hi
[27.05.10 18:34:11] akathleen: Hi
[27.05.10 18:36:38] C Galas: hello everyone-apologies for last week-I tried skype on my iPhone when I was caught without my computer after picking up my car from service. I knew I couldn't make it home, so I just ducked into a starbucks, but typing on my iPhone didn't work well. Apologies for any confusion!
[27.05.10 18:40:09] Rita Freudenberg: squeakfest preparations: cherry made great mock-ups for program flyers
[27.05.10 18:40:35] Rita Freudenberg: contact the previous sponsors like MaMaMedia
[27.05.10 18:40:43] Rita Freudenberg: write grant proposals
[27.05.10 18:41:19] Cherry Withers: Let me hangup...it might be me
[27.05.10 18:42:20] akathleen: are we still connected
[27.05.10 18:42:49] Rita Freudenberg: everyone but you
[27.05.10 18:42:53] Cherry Withers: oh no
[27.05.10 18:43:02] Rita Freudenberg: we will get you back!
[27.05.10 18:45:20] Avigail Snir: # 5 The World Wide Workshop Foundation

  • 5.1 GLOBALORIA Program
    [27.05.10 18:46:16] Avigail Snir: The foundation of Idit Harel: # 5 The World Wide Workshop Foundation
  • 5.1 GLOBALORIA Program
    [27.05.10 18:49:29] Rita Freudenberg: talk to Sridhar if funding could go through UNCW
    [27.05.10 18:50:39] Rita Freudenberg: propose a different time for a business meeting
    [27.05.10 18:51:41] Cherry Withers: Rita please send me the sample letter for sponsorship grants and we can divide and conquer on sending them out?
    [27.05.10 18:51:43] akathleen: what costs will UNCW cover
    [27.05.10 18:52:31] C Galas: we can't take money in yet-we can't use Viewpoints and we are not set up. I'm not sure we can take money in until we get (hopefully!) into the software consortium?
    [27.05.10 18:55:05] Rita Freudenberg: invite Sridhar to a Squeakfest meeting next week
    [27.05.10 19:00:06] C Galas: it's doing the same things the same way instead of doing the same things DIFFERENTLY!
    [27.05.10 19:00:29] C Galas: teacher is not understanding the power of the computer-
    [27.05.10 19:01:00] C Galas: needs to know what possibilities there are-yes and show EToys with math concepts- variables, zero,
    [27.05.10 19:01:27] Avigail Snir: I was asking about the squeakers from Nepal and south America. Are they aware of the sqeakfest and are we going to help them pay for participating? Could you hear me when I talked?
    [27.05.10 19:01:46] C Galas: that comes from fear-not knowing-that is something we need to overcome-fear of a new thing and not understanding how to use in a classroom
    [27.05.10 19:01:52] Randall Caton: i coulnd't hear you
    [27.05.10 19:02:10] akathleen: I can not hear you Avigail, are you muted?
    [27.05.10 19:02:22] Avigail Snir: Please call me again
    [27.05.10 19:03:19] Rita Freudenberg: are the artifacts worksheets?
    [27.05.10 19:03:38] C Galas: i agree-building is the core concept-seeing what happens when you take off the hood
    [27.05.10 19:03:52] C Galas: where are you seeing these worksheet Etoys?
    [27.05.10 19:04:09] C Galas: projects, artifacts, buildings, all good!
    [27.05.10 19:04:11] Cherry Withers: I've only seen the graphing object
    [27.05.10 19:05:05] Cherry Withers: and Stephen
    [27.05.10 19:05:10] Rita Freudenberg: http://www.squeaksource.com/LearningArtifacts/
    [27.05.10 19:06:28] Cherry Withers: Steve base it on cuisenaire rods
    [27.05.10 19:06:48] Cherry Withers: Miquon Math
    [27.05.10 19:07:47] Rita Freudenberg: education team should look more into these new things to have more influence
    [27.05.10 19:08:08] akathleen: http://www.mathplayground.com/%5C/
    [27.05.10 19:09:20] Rita Freudenberg: with artefacts there is no thinking?
    [27.05.10 19:09:48] akathleen: This web site has so many nice math projects and some of them could be made by students with Etoys. It would be great if we could make some of these as Etoys projects and show how they are done.
    [27.05.10 19:10:09] Cherry Withers: for maybe assessment not necessarily for instruction?
    [27.05.10 19:13:15] Rita Freudenberg: fractions project on the showcase http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=9975
    [27.05.10 19:13:49] C Galas: I get a statement that says You do not have access to that porject. ?
    [27.05.10 19:14:03] Cherry Withers: same here
    [27.05.10 19:14:03] Rita Freudenberg: I logged in on the website
    [27.05.10 19:22:59] Rita Freudenberg: do we want to have these artefacts in Etoys? education team should discuss this.
    [27.05.10 19:24:45] Rita Freudenberg: we have already many things in Etoys, we should do a "house-cleaning" to remove things?
    [27.05.10 19:25:36] Rita Freudenberg: put the list of things to remove into jira
    [27.05.10 19:26:53] Rita Freudenberg: tag it with "education"
    [27.05.10 19:26:53] Cherry Withers: Do people actually look at that? I feel like it's a blackhole for information. I never see responses to my entries.
    [27.05.10 19:27:04] Cherry Withers: Maybe it's just my settings
    [27.05.10 19:27:54] Cherry Withers: yes please!
    [27.05.10 19:28:02] Rita Freudenberg: jira workshop in next meeting
    [27.05.10 19:28:35] Rita Freudenberg: orientation for new members
    [27.05.10 19:29:07] akathleen: Is there a way for us to use the alt-shift-w "update code from server"? As I read about all of the changes that are being added, I don't have any sense of how all of those changes are going to fit together as a whole.
    [27.05.10 19:29:20] Cherry Withers: Maybe have a default Welcome e-mail for new members coming in would be helpful in the future.
    [27.05.10 19:30:41] Rita Freudenberg: educators need to be able to test changes easy
    [27.05.10 19:31:03] Rita Freudenberg: cherry, could you start writing such a message, and we refine it later?
    [27.05.10 19:31:11] Cherry Withers: sure
    [27.05.10 19:31:18] Rita Freudenberg: thanks
    [27.05.10 19:31:57] akathleen: Etoys Kurznkeitengun
    [27.05.10 19:32:23] Rita Freudenberg: kurzanleitungen
    [27.05.10 19:32:36] C Galas: the other thing that Alan and Dan have talked about is being able to not download Etoys-this is the big thing that will make it so much easier!!-and better for schools that can't download due to firewalls.
    [27.05.10 19:32:55] C Galas: Alan is talking with Steve Jobs about getting Etoys on the iPad too
    [27.05.10 19:35:02] akathleen: Etoys in iPad would be great
    [27.05.10 19:35:44] C Galas: can't you see it working on that screen-it's like the Dynabook!
    [27.05.10 19:35:46] Rita Freudenberg: release date: mid-June
    [27.05.10 19:36:17] Cherry Withers: bye Kathleen!
    [27.05.10 19:36:27] Cherry Withers: great!
    [27.05.10 19:37:48] Randall Caton: Graphing of Data ------> finished by April 16

Better translation support ------> finished by May 7

Wider font support ------> finished by May 28

Input/Output of Data From/To Files ------> finished by June 18

Learner and Teacher Feedback ------> finished by July 9

Etoys paint tool ------> finished by July 26

EtoyMaker ------> finished by August 9
[27.05.10 19:38:23] C Galas: These dates are from Rico's project?
[27.05.10 19:38:55] Rita Freudenberg: have ricoh on one of the next meetings
[27.05.10 19:40:26] Rita Freudenberg: invite rico next week
[27.05.10 19:41:09] Cherry Withers: It was Flash-like
[27.05.10 19:41:21] Cherry Withers: html5/javascript
[27.05.10 19:42:23] Cherry Withers: He has a sponsor
[27.05.10 19:43:59] Rita Freudenberg: contact madhur shresta, ask if he plans to come
[27.05.10 19:44:40] Rita Freudenberg: Cherry will have a Kedama presentation
[27.05.10 19:45:31] C Galas: Cherry-I'm trying to get in touch with Linda Kao, who wrote the tutorial-I have an email int to Aimee Dorr at UCLA, who was her advisor. I'll let you know if that happens.
[27.05.10 19:45:41] C Galas: the tutorial on Kedama that is
[27.05.10 19:48:40] Avigail Snir: Rita, can you email me madhur Shresta's Email address?
[27.05.10 19:48:59] Randall Caton: Goals for Richo's project
[27.05.10 19:49:02] Randall Caton: 1. Input/Output of Data From/To Files: Tiles would be created to allow data from the Etoys environment to be output to a file and for information from an external file to be imported into the Etoys environment.
2. Learner and Teacher Feedback: Tiles would be created to allow formative feedback to be provided to learners and teachers as a student progresses through a project.
[27.05.10 19:49:03] Cherry Withers: ok..thank you everyone!
[27.05.10 19:49:56] C Galas: thanks everyone-bye!

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