Avigail, Cathie, Cherry, David, Steve, Kathleen, Beth, Carlos, Randy, Rita
Rita gave a short review of her visit and talk in Portugal, which led us to the topic of the different versions of Squeak Etoys which are used. We agreed that we at least need to put some information on the website about which projects work well with the showcase and Etoys 4.
Randy gave us an overview about Rico's progress on his GSoC project, which is really good. Steve asked to switch the last two topics on his agenda and to do Learner and Teacher feedback before Etoys Paint tool. For the paint tool we will ask the community for feedback before changes or additions will be made.
Then we came up with the first presentation proposals for Squeakfest and other related issues.
You can find the chat log below.
Rita
[20.05.10 18:35:56] stevesargon: That's a great idea for learning a new language
[20.05.10 18:36:34] Rita Freudenberg: bug: recorded audio files are missing
[20.05.10 18:37:45] Rita Freudenberg: Kathleen: sometimes it workes, sometimes it didn't
[20.05.10 18:38:04] Rita Freudenberg: happens when there are a lot of sound bites
[20.05.10 18:40:47] Cherry Withers: PC for me
[20.05.10 18:40:59] Rita Freudenberg hat David Corking zu diesem Chat hinzugefügt
[20.05.10 18:41:02] Cherry Withers: also how long are each of the sound bites?
[20.05.10 18:41:33] Rita Freudenberg: randy: it worked fine before the XO version
[20.05.10 18:41:58] Rita Freudenberg hat C Galas zu diesem Chat hinzugefügt
[20.05.10 18:44:36] C Galas: Hi everyone
[20.05.10 18:48:10] Rita Freudenberg: http://www.squeaklandia.pt/index.php/In%C3%ADcio
[20.05.10 18:50:21] stevesargon: A known issues section of the website
[20.05.10 18:52:27] Rita Freudenberg: ask Luis if projects from squeakland are running in Squeak 3.9
[20.05.10 18:52:38] Beth Santos: oops! need to lose my internet connection for just one second but i'll be right back!
[20.05.10 18:54:35] Randall Caton: Graphing of Data ------> finished by April 16
Better translation support ------> finished by May 7
Wider font support ------> finished by May 28
EtoyMaker ------> finished by June 11
Input/Output of Data From/To Files ------> finished by July 2
Etoys paint tool ------> finished by July 23
Learner and Teacher Feedback ------> finished by August 9
[20.05.10 18:54:41] akathleen: I must stop for a while to speak to a repairman
[20.05.10 18:55:21] C Galas: Please try calling me once more?
[20.05.10 18:56:38] stevesargon: Cathy, try mute
[20.05.10 18:58:50] Rita Freudenberg: more tools in the catalog
[20.05.10 18:59:04] Rita Freudenberg: if you open rico's projects
[20.05.10 18:59:38] Cherry Withers: it would help to have someone include this as a presentation on Squeakfest as "New features talk" and demo them
[20.05.10 18:59:52] stevesargon: Screencast
[20.05.10 18:59:56] stevesargon: put on YouTube
[20.05.10 19:00:03] Cherry Withers: great idea
[20.05.10 19:00:06] Cherry Withers: yes!
[20.05.10 19:00:20] Cherry Withers: you can also do Jing
[20.05.10 19:02:00] Cherry Withers: They would love the beach!
[20.05.10 19:03:50] Randall Caton: 1. Input/Output of Data From/To Files: This would allow learners to import data for visualization in the Etoys environment. Etoys is richer than most learning environments used in education and very creative things could be done in Etoys to visualize and use external data from a file. Learners and Teachers would also benefit from getting formative feedback on how the learner is progressing. Etoys is a rich environment of objects and data regarding the learner's manipulation of these objects would be sent to an external file for educators to analyze at a later date. The feedback would be more sophisticated and useful than a simple list of keystrokes or monitoring of eye movements. Further, data could be retrieved from these files to present to the learner or teacher as formative feedback on the learner's progress.
[20.05.10 19:06:50] Randall Caton: ask Richo to move up Learner and Teacher Feedback
[20.05.10 19:06:59] akathleen: i"m back
[20.05.10 19:07:21] Beth Santos: i'll be doing some work in sao tome over the next month and can give feedback on my experience there too!
[20.05.10 19:07:22] Rita Freudenberg: ask community for feedback on etoys paint tool before Rico starts working on it
[20.05.10 19:07:40] Carlos Rabassa: africa
[20.05.10 19:07:58] Randall Caton: 1. Input/Output of Data From/To Files: Tiles would be created to allow data from the Etoys environment to be output to a file and for information from an external file to be imported into the Etoys environment.
2. Learner and Teacher Feedback: Tiles would be created to allow formative feedback to be provided to learners and teachers as a student progresses through a project.
[20.05.10 19:08:05] Carlos Rabassa: Sao TOme e Principe , they speak portuguese
[20.05.10 19:08:07] stevesargon: thanks
[20.05.10 19:09:44] stevesargon: Is the latest version .010 there?
[20.05.10 19:09:49] Beth Santos: sorry, just ran off but i'm back 
yes, lots of connections with portuguese diaspora. not necessarily waveplace-related
[20.05.10 19:10:13] Rita Freudenberg: so you know about the portuguese material, yes?
[20.05.10 19:10:14] C Galas: What is the learner and teacher feedback? Is this written by the one who makes the project? Is the intent to provide scaffolded instruction?
[20.05.10 19:10:33] stevesargon: Its whatever you want it to be
[20.05.10 19:10:57] Beth Santos: just learning about the portuguese material as you all speak!
[20.05.10 19:11:00] Randall Caton: http://www.pcs.cnu.edu/~rcaton/ESUG/ESUG.html
[20.05.10 19:11:34] C Galas: It appears when summonses or when triggered by certain responses?
[20.05.10 19:11:41] Beth Santos: sounds great!!
[20.05.10 19:12:00] Randall Caton: Cathy - the intent is for the teacher to be able to write the feedback in Etoys
[20.05.10 19:12:30] akathleen: http://www.etoysillinois.org/library.php?tags=Etoys%20Kurzanleitungen%202010
[20.05.10 19:12:53] akathleen: just a start on the German translations at web site above
[20.05.10 19:13:15] Cherry Withers: Would it look like the one you had Randy? or is it something that educators can also put in different format or table?
[20.05.10 19:13:26] akathleen: repair meeting again, back soon
[20.05.10 19:13:48] Randall Caton: Cherry - like the example I created
[20.05.10 19:14:04] Randall Caton: only much more
[20.05.10 19:17:37] Rita Freudenberg: Merik Vosswinkel created an Etoys version for the iPhone
[20.05.10 19:18:05] stevesargon: Etoys on Android is a great idea
[20.05.10 19:18:22] C Galas: Alan is working on this. But thinks it would be the next version pf etoys
[20.05.10 19:18:41] C Galas: On the upas with Steve
[20.05.10 19:21:37] David Corking: Steve - have you posted an example project showing cuisenaire rods or other manipulatives?
[20.05.10 19:23:10] stevesargon: David - yes, its called Fraction Tools
[20.05.10 19:23:37] Cherry Withers: I can do a short one on Etoys in Philippines: Etoys contest as a filler. 
[20.05.10 19:24:06] Cherry Withers: How many "experts"/developers do we have who are going to attend?
[20.05.10 19:24:07] stevesargon: I will be doing on on "Tools to Teach with"
[20.05.10 19:24:12] akathleen: back
[20.05.10 19:24:38] stevesargon: Fraction Tools - http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7673
[20.05.10 19:25:08] stevesargon: Also Area blocks - http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7744
[20.05.10 19:25:24] Cherry Withers: Can we possibly put a banner/ad on the NYU event at the end of the month?
[20.05.10 19:25:29] stevesargon: Am working on a GeoBoard as well
[20.05.10 19:25:44] Cherry Withers: Alan Kay is a keynote speaker
[20.05.10 19:25:45] Cherry Withers: yes
[20.05.10 19:26:07] akathleen: olpc learning club might be willing to post info about Squeakfest, I will get in touch with Mike Lee
[20.05.10 19:26:50] Rita Freudenberg: contact Idit Harel
[20.05.10 19:27:36] stevesargon: is anyone else going to NYU?
[20.05.10 19:27:36] C Galas: I worked with her and Yasmin Macao
[20.05.10 19:27:43] David Corking: steve, I will ask my son's teacher if I can try Fractions and Area Blocks on his interactive whiteboard
[20.05.10 19:27:52] C Galas: Kafai
[20.05.10 19:28:10] C Galas: Cc
[20.05.10 19:28:14] stevesargon: David, thanks I would appreciate any feedback and suggestions for improvements
[20.05.10 19:29:45] Rita Freudenberg: cathie, what do you think? will you contact Idit?
[20.05.10 19:31:20] C Galas: Kathleen let's chat later by email and we can both call her?
[20.05.10 19:31:41] Rita Freudenberg: Cathie, it was Avigail
[20.05.10 19:32:15] C Galas: Sorry I only see the chat and hear voices
[20.05.10 19:32:38] C Galas: Abigail we will chat later?
[20.05.10 19:33:04] C Galas: iPhone auto correct avigail
[20.05.10 19:33:16] Rita Freudenberg:
[20.05.10 19:33:50] Cherry Withers: It would be interesting to know how UNCW keep their students interested
[20.05.10 19:35:02] Carlos Rabassa: Nice being with all of you. Thanks for inviting me to join. Have to leave to pick up grandson from school. Bye
[20.05.10 19:35:11] Rita Freudenberg: bye Carlos
[20.05.10 19:35:50] Cherry Withers: bye Carlos
[20.05.10 19:37:07] C Galas: Thx all I will go now apologies for my poor connection. Cathie
[20.05.10 19:37:24] Rita Freudenberg: thanks for joning us!
[20.05.10 19:40:27] stevesargon: Thanks
[20.05.10 19:42:29] akathleen: I just sent a note to Mike Lee about Squeakfest OLPC Learning Club DC
[20.05.10 19:43:39] Rita Freudenberg: in Chicago: went out to a restaurant and listened to jazz
[20.05.10 19:44:19] Rita Freudenberg: reception on campus was better
[20.05.10 19:46:47] Rita Freudenberg: book sprint June, 14
[20.05.10 19:48:21] akathleen: I must leave for a meet at 1 PM
[20.05.10 19:48:53] Beth Santos: i'm also heading out. thanks everyone! i'll be in touch about haiti and sao tome
[20.05.10 19:53:50] David Corking: thank you - bye
[20.05.10 19:54:11] Cherry Withers: It was nice talking to you David! Bye bye everyone