participants: John Stout, Randy Caton, Tim Falconer, Marta Voelcker, Christine Murakami, Cherry Withers, Kathleen Harness, Avigail Snir, Hilaire Fernandes, Cathe Galas, Rita Freudenberg
John told us that there is no funding for the GIS project yet, which affects mostly travel expenses for the colleague from Nigeria and cost of the maps. Randy already said he will work on the project further on, it will become part of the courseware. He has already some ideas for 5 units. We talked about these ideas, especially where to put it in the courseware. When we discussed categories, Tim listed the categorization issues in the chat window:
Timothy Falconer: 1. we pick categories and subcategories
Timothy Falconer: 2. tags are picked by everyone
Timothy Falconer: 3. we want to encourage category use so there's not lots of variations (as happens with tags)
Timothy Falconer: 4. we will have multiple-select categories, but not now
Timothy Falconer: 5. we will have sub-categories, but we're waiting for a uniform distribution
Timothy Falconer: 6. we can add subcats at any time
Timothy Falconer: 7. categories are updating into etoys whenever someone logs in (i just tested this and it works great)
Timothy Falconer: 8. better to add categories than remove or re-group them . . .we can do the latter, but it'll be difficult from a data management standpoint
Randy suggested a new category "information science". Tim suggested to make it a subcategory of science. Marta is interested in this project for Brazil, did some research on maps on the internet. John Stout told us, that buying a map could cost about $4000. In the discussion some related ideas were mentioned, like a map of water sources, average temperatures etc. Cherry suggested to look at the Aquafer project from Southern , CA?, if they would be willing to share their data? Cathie posted this link: resource for projects with Aquifers USGS: http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/earthgwaquifer.html
Cathie did ask if it would be possible to drop data into Etoys. Tim suggested to open a ticket about that on the tracker.
Timothy Falconer: this might turn into a new etoys feature
Timothy Falconer: some concept of table of data
Timothy Falconer: as a central concept
Timothy Falconer: Excel import ![]()
Timothy Falconer: (just the facts)
Timothy Falconer: maybe a "table", scrollable
Timothy Falconer: the question would be how to reference the individual cells
Timothy Falconer: someone write up a jira issue and assign it to etoys 4.1
Randy pointed out that he uses color-coding for the maps, therefore he needs solid-colored maps.
Kathleen, Avigail, Hilaire and Christine had left by now, Marta and John left during the next topic.
Rita told the group that with the new Etoys version we have the opportunity to test the new showcase. As many participants as possible have to test the procedure to make sure everything works fine and is useable for kids and in the classroom. Tim will make a screencast on how to create an account and test, someone should write a summary to have it as text, too.
Tim asked the group if everyone, who registerson the website to get an account should be manually approved. Rita wants to make sure that kids are not allowed before the end of the test phase. Everyone should think about kids when testing.
Cathie asked for categorization and sorting, Tim explained the ranking process. This process will be written down on the website. Time suggests to have an Email every week with "top five projects of the week", everyone can subscribe to get it. Cathie suggested ideas on how to select these projects: design, color, aesthetics, educational value, correct information (researched)
The projects in the "featured" section of the website will be manually selected and not appear in the other sections. To create a group within the showcase one has to send a request to the admin.
For future versions Cathie suggested to have profiles on Squeakland connected with facebook, and even twitter.
Rita raised concerns about children using the website, Cathie pointed to whyville and webkinz
Cathie Galas: check out Whyville's site and look at how they check--they do a good job and have been doing it since 1999!
Cathie Galas: http://www.whyville.net/smmk/nice
Cathie Galas: Webkinz also encourages young children to use their site--http://www.webkinz.com/us_en/ check their policies
We should explain the rules to kids, teach them netiquette, how to use the internet safely. Also, there should be some explanations for teachers and parents about what we are doing on the website, how we are protecting the children. That should be in place before children can register.
Finally, we discussed consequences of certain behaviour of users on the website. What happens, when someone breaks the rules by writing inappropriate comments, for instance? Their was agreement to have consequences and then redemption. One idea was to let the projects and comments of this user disappear for some time. We will discuss that further in next meetings.
Rita will not be available for a meeting next thursday, so we could either find a new date or communicate via Email and have the next meeting in October. Since we are all busy testing the showcase we will probably send emails all the time ![]()
This was a rather short meeting due to late invitations send by Rita.
Randy told us that the Northern Virginia Home Education Conference, is reallyan excellent conference with about 4000 attendees. He will get information on how we could participate (propose a paper etc.).
On Saturday, September 19 is Software Freedom Day in Melbourne, where Tansel Ersavas will give an Etoys talk. We will gather material on the wiki that people can print if going somewhere and advertise Etoys. Tim will prepare the advertisement page so that it can be used (mostly remove Squeakfest notice). W will ask the community for material.
Tim told us how the ranking process on the showcase will work. We discussed how projects will be ranked by individuals and if/how to give feedback. We decided that everybody should decide, if he/she wants feedback when uploading a project. That would lower the burden of the reviewer (when opted out). Feedback should be encouraging.
Cathie, Cherry, Christine, Randy, Tim, Rita
1. Upcoming events (conferences, who plans to attend? who would like to submit a paper? what about the panel at SXSW) A list of conferences is at the wiki here http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Conferences
for CUE conference: contact Mulholland Middle school
NECC: Kathleen Harness plans to go and present, Tim plans to got, has high priority
Constructionism: we will submit a paper, let us know when you would like to co-write. Focus: what is special about Etoys? What can be done with Etoys but not with other construcionist tools like Alice, Scratch, Logo etc. We should start brainstorming that on the mailing list, put the results on the wiki
Northern Virginia Home Education Conference: Randy will ask friends about this conference, we will find out more about home schooling community and how to get involved, which conferences to attend etc.
2. start organizing next Squeakfest - what do you think we should/could do early?
Date for next year Squeakfest should be scheduled, Tim will take care of that.
As soon as the date is fixed we shoudl send announcements to local schools and advertise it. Cherry proposed: How about a Squeak Fare? Where the kids from NC can show off/demo their work?
3. Template for courseware. Randy used Kathleens template with one of his projects, we can talk if that will be the template to describe the courseware. If so, we could start writing the other courseware components ...
Randy did use the template. We will talk to Kathleen Harness about his ideas. Tim proposed to send Randys project to Bruno and Marta to get feedback. We talked about which standards to use in the project description.
Cherry did ask which standards we use:
NETS for students: http://www.iste.org/Content/NavigationMenu/NETS/ForStudents/2007Standards/NETS_for_Students_2007.htm
We will look up UNESCO and other sources to find more international standards (ask people from Plan Ceibal, OLPC etc.)
http://www.education-world.com/standards/
http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=51850&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
4. OLPC book sprint next week in Washington http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Class_Acts#Needs
Plans are that Rita and Bruno from Brazl will participate. Rita will contact Carlos about that to get one more chapter about use of Etoys on the XO.
5. Consider whether we should bundle DrGeo II with this month's Etoys release, perhaps as a main item in the Supply Bin. The software team is generally in favor of it.
The education team also likes the idea. Tim told us about release dates: Etoys 4.0 ... Sep 16th; Etoys 4.1 ... Feb 21st; Etoys 4.2 ... July 21st; Etoys 4.3 ... Dec 21st; Etoys 4.4 ... June 21st
6. showcase categorization
regions and subjects are ok. Randy suggested instead of ages: concrete learning, transitional learning, abstract learning
All categories should allow multiselection, because there are cross-subject projects, projects suitable for all age groups, even projects from participants from different countries. Tim will talk with the software team about that.
Tim asked about ranking projects? Will be done manually by the education team, rank will not not be shown, it's just a sorting criterion. Will we have tagging? Rita would like to have it on the public showcase, not on the official one. We will talk about that when we can see the showcaes and try things out.
Comments for projects will be enabled, but moderated.
7. update on John Stout's Nigerian project.
Randy believes it has great possibilities for broader application.
His idea: "I believe we can go beyond developing courseware just for Nigeria and create a general introductory set of lessons that help students learn to use those tools in etoys that are useful in working with GIS information to better understand their country, help solve some of its problems and become skilled in using GIS data. They can use those tools to work with data on their country's resources, economics, politics, social systems, environment, climate, etc. If we use gobal GIS data in the courseware, the units could be a starting point for learners in any country are they could develop a better understanding of their country from a global perspective. This has the potential to produce some very skilled and productive citizens that could make valuable contributions to their country's future. Does anyone know if there are any OLPC projects with this focus using etoys? If not, I believe we should consider this approach. I would appreciate any comments.
Randy did some more sample projects for John Stout, just with Etoys, no Squeak programming needed yet. Cherry told us about an exhibition in Santa Barbara museum about water contingencies all over the world. Could be a partner for us? Here's the project that she mentioned during the meeting: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-124
8. Talk about any changes we want in the Etoys gallery of projects . . . might be nice to include projects from other sources such as EtoysIllinois and USeIT. What would you remove? What would you replace it with?
The projects meant are these which come with Etoys. Next release is Spe 16th, so which projects wpould you like to see? We will ask people who presented great projects at Squeakfest, would like to have not just english projects, but at least one multi-language project: daemon castle. Who will help us translate it? We then talked about where to put DrGeo and started talking about names of categories in the object catalogue. That will be something to talk about for release in Feb.
Next meeting next week, doodle to find a date.
Agenda:
- Upcoming events (conferences, who plans to attend? who would like to submit a paper? what about the panel at SXSW) A list of conferences is at the wiki here http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Conferences
Feel free to add more ideas of conferences we should be present!
- Template for courseware. Randy used Kathleens template with one of his projects, we can talk if that will be the template to describe the courseware. If so, we could start writing the other courseware components ...

- OLPC book sprint next week in Boston http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Class_Acts#Needs
- start organizing next Squeakfest - what do you think we should/could do early?
- showcase categorization
from Tim:
- Consider whether we should bundle DrGeo II with this month's Etoys release, perhaps as a main item in the Supply Bin. The software team is generally in favor of it.
- Talk about any changes we want in the Etoys gallery of projects . . . might be nice to include projects from other sources such as EtoysIllinois and USeIT. What would you remove? What would you replace it with?
from Randy:
- An update on John Stout's Nigerian project. I believe it has great possibilities for broader application.
- SCORM and ISM: I looked into them a bit an others may know more.